Calvary Chapel Norwich, England
Continuing the 2005 series of interviews with pastors from various Calvary Chapels around Europe, Calvary News Network has put 10 questions to Pastor John Brown of CC Norwich. From his abode in England, the American pastor describes the spiritual situation in today’s England, how to dodge Darwin and Bush en route to the Cross, and he shares the needs and praises of his congregation.
How did God call you to be a pastor and, later on, to serve in Europe?
I had been a full-time staff member with Calvary Chapel Imperial Valley, CA as a Youth Pastor for the better part of
10 years. God was blessing it tremendously, growing the youth both in depth and numbers, and I was loving it. In fact,
I loved it too much. The Lord began to convict me that the ministry had become an idol. I repented and prepared to
leave full-time ministry, but then I sensed the Lord telling me to take a step of faith. In our circumstance that
step was getting off the staff at the church and then waiting for Him to show me what was next.
So, with the much-appreciated support of my senior pastor, Pete Mallinger, I gave my resignation. I was preparing
to take our youth to what would be my last summer camp with CC Costa Mesa. Kenny Wood, one of the Youth Pastors at
CCCM (who happens to be British), called me and asked me if I’d speak at the camp. I said yes and shared how it
would be a bittersweet time for me as it would be my last youth camp. “Where are you going?” he asked. “I have no
clue,” I answered sheepishly, “but I’m sure the Lord will show me.” Kenny enthusiastically and prophetically
replied, “O you gotta go to the UK, bro!” At the camp, Kenny introduced me to Brian Broderson, who invited me
to go with him on his next trip to the UK. I went, and after wrestling with the Lord for about a year, finally
submitted.
The Brown family: John and Sarah with their
five kids.
My wife and I sold our house, car and most of our furniture and moved to the UK in September 2003. At first, we
helped Rob Dingman at CC Twickenham, London by developing their Children’s Ministry and by doing youth and
University outreaches. We knew it was just a step and in September ‘04, God confirmed that we were to plant
Calvary Chapel Norwich. We finished up with CC Twickenham and moved to Norwich in December.
What part of the role and responsibility as pastor can overwhelm you the most sometimes?
Meeting individual needs. There are so many people here (in the UK) who have very little pastoral care. No one will
take the time to just listen and then pray. There is also a great need for one-to-one discipleship. At this point,
my wife and I are doing individual discipleship with two different couples and I am doing discipleship with two other
men individually. Pouring into these individuals has been some of the most fruitful and rewarding parts of ministry. But
it is also extremely time-consuming. That being said, God really is faithful to “lead us to the Rock that is higher”
(Psalm 61:2).
What is God doing in, through, and around CC Norwich at the moment?
We’ve been really blessed. I’ve been told that with most church plants, things happen very slowly. But we’ve seen new
people almost every week – and they all seem inclined to stay! God is just so faithful to bless His Word. Many
people who have come to our fellowship were just about to “give up” on the visible church. They had been begging
God to send a church that would teach the Scriptures without the traditions of men or winds of doctrine or the hype
of “charismania”. It’s humbling to have them tell us that Calvary Chapel is an answer to those prayers.
In your view, what part of the culture and mentality in England is the biggest obstacle to overcome when
advocating a personal, living relationship with Jesus Christ and an uncompromising, literal approach to the
Bible?
This British culture is completely secularized. “Darwinism” is not just accepted as “scientific truth”; it’s esteemed
with national pride (Darwin is on the 10 pound note). I’ve shared the gospel with several people on the street, and
every person under 25 years old says initially that there is no God! So there is a lot of
pre-evangelism that has to happen.
Lately, there’s been a growing focus on the differences between Europe and the USA when it comes to their approach
to God and “faith-based” issues – in some cases adding to the prejudices between the two continents’ populations. You
are an American pastor ministering in Europe to Europeans. What has that brought you in terms of both challenges and
benefits in your ministry?
Pastor John Brown.
The greatest challenge is constantly changing the subject when people want to talk about George Bush! The challenge
with non-believers is to keep the conversation in the direction of the Cross. But that is a challenge everywhere.
Within the church it’s avoiding those issues that take away from equipping the saints, loving the brethren and
spreading the gospel. There are some “faith-based” issues that we cannot avoid. For example, if you teach the
Scriptures, homosexuality will be addressed. But others are at best a distraction from the gospel. Avoiding such
distractions is always beneficial.
Do you work together with other ministries in the UK or in Europe in any way?
In London, we worked with Youth For Christ and here [in Norwich] I’ve tried to make contact with other ministries. I
would really like to be linked with other churches because I think Calvary Chapels can sometimes have the reputation
of being isolated from the rest of the body of Christ. At the same time, much of the visible body of Christ is
embracing destructive doctrines, which we cannot condone. Right now, I’m praying about where the missions’ focus of
our fellowship should be. I believe fellowships are divided but the Body of Christ is not. Worship styles are
negotiable but the gospel is not. We want to work with any group who wants the focus to be the gospel.
What book of the Bible are you teaching through at the moment, and what messages has God seemed to
especially personalize for you as a congregation in that process?
At the mid-week studies, we are going through the book of Genesis. On Sunday mornings we are studying through
Mark. There are two themes that God continues to impress on our hearts. 1) This world is not our home. Abraham’s life
was characterized by altars and tents. He worshipped as he wandered, knowing that “he waited for the city which has
foundations whose builder and maker is God” (Hebrews 11:10). 2) Jesus is our model for ministry. All that happened in
the Book of Acts is just an amplification of Jesus’ ministry.
What are some of the specific church needs that CC Norwich is lifting up to God in prayer right now?
Unity. This group is as diverse as it gets. The whole spectrum of Christendom is represented and therefore the
potential for disagreement abides. Pray that the Spirit would unify us all under the authority of His Word. Health.
It seems we have a disproportionate amount of physically ill people. To their credit, they are faithful to be at the
studies. But the amount of suffering breaks our hearts. Pray for endurance and as the Lord wills, healing. A facility
that is conducive to fellowship (right now we have to hurry people out so the caretaker can lock up).
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What are some of the specific praises that CC Norwich is lifting up to God in gratitude right now?
Love for the Truth. All who come so appreciate sound teaching. They make my job a joy! Love for one another. This
little fellowship continues to grow in the fruit of His Spirit. May we abound more and more.
In your view, how can people best pray for the ministry of CC Norwich and the spiritual situation in
England?
Pray that men would be raised up to be servant leaders; laying down their lives for the sheep. Pray for believers to
have the courage to confront in love those pastors/vicars who preach false doctrine and that those pastors/vicars
would repent. Come quickly, Lord Jesus.
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